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Post by poorfarm on Jul 31, 2007 14:00:05 GMT -5
I'm transitioning to DD's from GWP's, so this is my first. The old boy is 12 and pretty much done hunting. BTW, I've always liked German shotguns! These boys have never sniffed a pen-raised bird.
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Post by hunter7474 on Oct 11, 2007 5:46:53 GMT -5
Gotz is looking good. If his sister keeps growing she will be bigger than him lol. I need to get some recent pics of her uploaded. I'll try to do that this weekend, he furnishings are coming on strong
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Post by poorfarm on Oct 11, 2007 6:33:26 GMT -5
I'd like to see Greta again. Last time I saw her you and I were sitting at a picnic table with Lynn while he filled out our paperwork. Since taking those pictures above last summer, our old dog has passed on to the bird field in the sky, and Götz is noticeably larger than our other guy.
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Post by hunter7474 on Oct 15, 2007 6:43:28 GMT -5
How's his training coming along? Do you plan to run him in NA this spring? I'm working with Greta on her obediance right now, she is a ball of fire to say the least. I've had her on rabbits a couple of times I actually think she may be ( Spulaut?) not sure if that is right term. She will almost always bark on hot scent.
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Post by Wildflugel on Oct 15, 2007 7:41:09 GMT -5
Hunter7474:
You are correct in that "Spurlaut" is translated to mean loud on track; "Sichtlaut" means loud on sight. In addition to these two notations, there are three others that are evaluated in the Manner of Hunting: "Fraglich" means uncertain (if the dog did not have the opportunity to be evaluated) and is shown as a question mark in the Zuchtbuch, "Stumm" which means silent and is not desireable from a German standpoint, and "Waidlaut" which translates to mean hunts loud and is considered to be a fault. I believe a drahthaar that has been evaluated as "stumm" can not be tested on the 20/40 hour blood track. Just thought you might be interested.
Wildflugel
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Post by hunter7474 on Oct 15, 2007 10:40:02 GMT -5
Jill- Thanks for the info. What happens if the dog is given the mark for Fraglich.? Can they still be tested for the 20/40 hr? I thought I read somewhere that they had to be witnessed to be loud by two judges, am I off on this? thanks for the help Victor
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Post by Wildflugel on Oct 15, 2007 11:24:46 GMT -5
Victor:
You are correct, if a owner is interested in having his dog test in the 20/40 hour blood track and the dog was marked as fraglich he needs to make arrangements for an evaluation to determine if the dog is loud. Sometimes owners will tag along at a VJP or HZP test and if the opportunity presents itself will put the dog on a rabbit (either cottontail or jackrabbit) to make a determination one way or the other. It is far easier to get a dog to open up on jacks than cottontails. Several years ago when I was in Washington state the owner of a Deutsch langhaar made arrangements with two judges (I was one of the two) to evaluate the manner of hunting on his dog. As I remember in order for their dogs to be certified for breeding they have to be either spurlaut or sichtlaut. We walked the fields until we bumped a jackrabbit and put the dog on the track. The dog was evaluated as being sichtlaut.
I am fairly certain that once a dog is marked stumm there is nothing an owner can do to reverse the notation, this is similar to the gunfire stability evaluation. Once a dog is marked as gun sensitive the notation can not be removed or changed.
Wildflugel
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Post by poorfarm on Oct 15, 2007 19:47:44 GMT -5
How's his training coming along? Do you plan to run him in NA this spring? I'm working with Greta on her obediance right now, she is a ball of fire to say the least. I've had her on rabbits a couple of times I actually think she may be ( Spulaut?) not sure if that is right term. She will almost always bark on hot scent. Things are going pretty well! He's been really good on his heel, sit/stay, and come. He can be a little stubborn at times, but he also seems pretty trainable. I'm going to start the force fetch process now and I've been studying the Smartfetch materials and that's been helpful. Like your Greta, Götz (Gus) is a hard driving pup. He really gets after it! I look forward to the day when all of that is channeled into finding birds, dead or alive! I also want to bloodtrack wounded deer with him in the future.
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Post by poorfarm on Oct 15, 2007 19:50:29 GMT -5
Hunter, I forgot to mention, yes, I plan on running the spring VJP test.
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Post by poorfarm on Nov 8, 2007 0:49:14 GMT -5
We're learning force fetch and tonight Gus carried the roller on lead nicely around the garage!
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Post by poorfarm on Dec 29, 2007 12:02:23 GMT -5
I thought I'd give a Gus update. He's 10 months old now and looking more like a dog than a puppy. First pheasant from northern Iowa at about 8 months old.! Didn't get a picture of his ruffed grouse from northern Wisconsin.. An unexpected Hungarian Partridge shot yesterday while pheasant hunting in Southern Minnesota. A couple on the training table. He's pretty good sized. I measured 66cm at the shoulder.
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